This is the discussion page for "Campus controversies". This page is where editors and readers discuss what content should and should not be in the article, and respond to others' questions and comments. Unlike articles' content pages, editors should only add material and respond to others' postings, and never make deletions. This page is intended to record the history of any debate, as well as work towards resolving it.
All commenters here should take credit for their words. When you make a change, suffix your posting with --~~~~ This will automatically record your username and the time of posting. Doing this helps seperate comments, and is consistent with Wikipedia guidelines.
Initial Debate Over Page
I hestitate to get involved in this controversy, but I think this sort of muckraking and these snide insults (nigaleian?) have absolutely no place on the wso wiki. --heather casteel
Also, the notion that Laleian and Ali are "most famous" for this incident is dishonest and inaccurate.
- A user has removed these lines from the current version of the Aida Laleian and Laylah Ali pages.--05jl 18:11, 14 March 2006 (EST)
I strongly agree with Heather and I don't think that Willipedia is the place for such inappropriate insults.
- It's a Wiki, so you should feel free to edit the article to make it more polite, accurate, complete and useful. I do *not* think that the article should be removed. Perhaps the board could way in. With regard to specific points:
- Nigaleian is not an "insult". Many scandals have names. Nigaleian is the most common one in use (by me and others) for this scandal. If you have a better name, suggest it.
- If Laleian is not most famous at Williams for her involvment than what is she most famous for? Again, feel free to edit this description, but deleting the entire article seems out of bounds.
- It is my understanding that Willipedia is a place to capture the history of Williams, including controversial events. Or are we to have just happy, smiling faces? -- Dave Kane
Edits by Willipedia Board
Members of the Willipedia board are discussing this page and will make some decisions about how to proceed with it.
Nevertheless, do not refrain from working on this page yourself; do not wait for the board to "handle" it. Make the changes you want to see. We prefer to be advised by you, the conscientious editing community, rather than advise you.
In the meantime, let us remind you to PLEASE sign your edits by appending them with --~~~~ and not just your name. Using the tildas gives username AND date and time, which is very useful for reconstructing discussion.--05jl 18:11, 14 March 2006 (EST)
Removal of large quote, from Record
I have removed the following for now. I am not wedded to this decision, but am placing it here for the time being, while any wiser than I seek a way to place it appropriately in the (revised) article.
Present at the meeting was Assistant Professor of Art Laylah Ali '90. Ali is African-American. Professor of Art Ed Epping claimed that
“All of the faculty who witnessed what happened at the meeting were stunned,†said Ed Epping, professor of art. “The force of the statement directed at Professor Ali was such that there was no way for Professor Ali to remain in the room.†Epping is on sabbatical in New York this semester, but was in attendance at the department meeting last spring.
When asked if he had been troubled by any public misconceptions of the incident, Epping said, “What I believe is not being discussed as fully as is required...is the vehemence with which this phrase was spoken and the directness of its intent.†It may read otherwise on paper, he said, but “the word ‘nigger’ was not used in that situation as a metaphor.â€
--05jl 19:11, 14 March 2006 (EST)